Wednesday, October 01, 2008

Obama Should Win and Sarah Palin: War, Dissidents & Creationism

Pastor Kalnins of Wasilla Assembly of God- Sarah Palins Church

Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq are part of a “world war” over the Christian faith:

What you see in a terrorist — that’s called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what’s going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You’re worried about getting hurt? He’s called us to die. Listen, you know we can’t even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say “war mode.” Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he’s like the good shepherd, he’s loving all the time and he’s kind all the time. Oh yes he is — but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.


and he has been quoted as saying:

Kalnins later bristled at the criticism Bush was facing for the government’s handling of Hurricane Katrina: “I hate criticisms towards the president, because it’s like criticisms towards the pastor — it’s almost like, it’s not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That’s what it’ll get you.”
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Anyway... If America was a rational country then Barack Obama would easily win the Presidential election after all the failures in policies the Republicans under the Bush/Cheney administration have now accumulated. From the War on Terror to the institutionalization of torture and the crack down on dissidents and freedom of speech & the fredom of assembly to Iraq & Katrina to Economic collapse & the attempts to bailout Wall Street. No matter how inept the Bush/Cheney Regime has been there is still a large proportion of Americans that believe that the Bush/Cheney administration somehow or other has been good for Americans. And further they argue in favor of four or more years of another Republican administration which will be controlled and dictated to by the Ultraconservatives & The Radical Religious Right. These people believe that all of the negative press Bush has received is just all part of a liberal conspiracy.

For instance one commentator has said that Obama will be the next President but he forgets how Americans are more interested in fanatical patriotism and empire building and spreading Christianity of a particular sort around the Globe. America is they believe an exceptional country which will prevail as long as Americans have Faith in God & America's military might.

We Now Know Who Will Be The Next President by Robert Shrum/ Sept.26/at Huffington Post

My friend Tim Russert, who didn't pull his words, famously said on the night of the North Carolina and Indiana primaries: "I think we now know who the Democratic nominee will be." Tonight I think we know who the next President will be.
The debate was a crossroads. For two weeks, John McCain has lurched down a dead-end road on the economy, from happy talk about "sound fundamentals" to gloom about economic crisis; alternately out of touch, confused and self-contradictory; then desperately reaching for another stunt with his blundering, transparently opportunistic intrusion into the financial rescue negotiations which crimped his debate prep. He clearly could have used more.

Barack Obama was crisp, reassuring and strong -- in short, presidential, as he has been throughout the financial storm of the past two weeks. McCain was not as bad as he has been recently; but much of this debate was fought on what was supposed to be his high ground. As the encounter ended, Obama not only controlled the commanding heights of the economic issue -- and he not only held his own on national security -- but clearly passed the threshold as a credible commander-in-chief. McCain kept repeating that Obama doesn't "understand." But he clearly did. McCain made up no ground. That's similar to what happened in 1960 when Nixon ran on the slogan "Experience Counts" but found it didn't count that much when voters decided JFK was up to the job after the side by side comparison they saw in the first debate


America is just another brandname to be sold to the world. If America is distrusted, disliked or hated that is because it is God's chosen country. The more it is disliked the more the True Believers like Sarah Palin believe that America is therefore on the right path. Because in the last days the True Christians will be despised & persecuted.

In this clip we get to see that Sarah Palin is truly a committed member of the Religious Right . She believes in the control of society & of information. Like others in the Religious Right she believes that all views which are contrary to her Evangelical Religious views are to be suppressed. Having a Manichean point of view she too believes in the us-against-them formula. There is a sharp demarcation between Good and Evil .

All books , music, movies etc. which do not reflect her narrow bigoted religious view are therefore the works of the Godless Liberals . And those Godless Liberals are either willing agents of Evil Principalities or have been duped by the Evil forces of Satan or the Antichrist.

Sarah Palin Book Censorship ABC investigates



And another compilation Palinisms. The commentary is right on but her lack of knowledge means little to most Americans. Once again we can say with confidence that in America as Bush has shown that just about anybody can become president. So Americans will probably make the same mistake again. This would be of no concern to those of us outside America if America didn't have a tendency to throw its weight around. America is the schoolyard bully when it comes to world affairs and this has been so since the mid nineteenth century and continues to be so.
From: Thunderf00t
Added: September 27, 2008


If Sarah Palins beliefs are the same as those of her Pastors then she is either not too bright as it were or does not understand the founding priciples of American democracy. For instance there is supposed to room for dissent in public discourse . Secondly there is supposed to be a separation of church and state which she doesn't seem to believe in. Believing that the earth is involved in an ongoing battle between Good and Evil there is then little room for diplomacy or compromise.

And another bit from DailySource.org on Sarah Palin

Pastor of Palin's church said people who criticized Bush would go to hell, and that Jesus was in ‘war mode‘ and favored going to war in Iraq
Here are excerpts from the Chicago Tribune:

A review of recorded sermons of Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999, also offers an “eyebrow-raising sketch of Palin’s longtime spiritual home,’’ the Post reports.

Kalnins has preached that critics of Bush will be banished to Hell, questioned if people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to Heaven, charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and Iraq were part of a war “contending for your faith,” and that Jesus “operated from that position of war mode.”

During the 2004 election, Kalnins praised Bush’s performance in debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered a not-so-subtle message about his own preference: “I’m not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I’m sorry,” Kalnins said. “If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time.”

Kalnins later bristled at the criticism Bush was facing for the government’s handling of Hurricane Katrina: “I hate criticisms towards the president, because it’s like criticisms towards the pastor — it’s almost like, it’s not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That’s what it’ll get you.”
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Palin “has maintained a friendship with Wasilla Assembly of God and has attended various conferences and special meetings here,” Kalnins’ office said in a statement reported by the Post.

In a June address at the church, Palin said: “Having grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special place,” she told the congregation in June. “What comes from this church I think has great destiny.”

The Tribune reported:

Palin was baptized at the Wasilla Assembly of God at 12, the Post reports, and has attended the church for most of her adult life. When she was inaugurated as governor, the founding pastor of the church delivered the invocation. In 2002, Palin moved her family to a nondenominational church, but she continues to worship at a related Assembly of God church in Juneau.

“It was so cool growing up in this church and getting saved here,’’ Palin told the church audience in June, praising “the umbrella of this church… God has sent me from underneath the umbrella of this church throughout this state.’‘

Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq are part of a “world war” over the Christian faith:

What you see in a terrorist — that’s called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what’s going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You’re worried about getting hurt? He’s called us to die. Listen, you know we can’t even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say “war mode.” Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he’s like the good shepherd, he’s loving all the time and he’s kind all the time. Oh yes he is — but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.


Also checkout
Grizzly Bay.org Gov. Sarah Palin Info.

The Republican Party of Alaska and Sarah Palin believe Intelligent Design AKA Creationism AKA Creation Science should be taught in public schools alongside evolution. This is just another way to teach a particular form of Christianity. Creationism or Intelligent Design is derived from a literal reading of the Bible in particular Genesis. Not all Christians read the Bible as being a literal innerant document. Intelligent Design is a theological argument rather than a scientific argument.

'Creation science' enters the race


GOVERNOR: Palin is only candidate to suggest it should be discussed in schools.
By TOM KIZZIA
Anchorage Daily News
Published: October 27, 2006

The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor's race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms.
Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

...The Republican Party of Alaska platform says, in its section on education: "We support giving Creation Science equal representation with other theories of the origin of life. If evolution is taught, it should be presented as only a theory."
The issue of teaching an alternative to evolution has turned into an issue in the current race for governor in Michigan, where Republican Dick DeVos said he wanted to see students exposed to the idea of intelligent design.

In 1993 in Alaska, several Board of Education appointees of Gov. Wally Hickel considered adding creation science to the board's list of recommended scientific concepts. The idea was proposed by a member of the school board who taught at a private Christian school in Fairbanks. It failed on a 3-3 tie, with one school board member absent.

In 2003 a curriculum reform panel recommended leaving evolution out of the state requirements to avoid controversy. Their recommendation was accepted by the state Department of Education, but the state board -- which had the final say -- reinserted the term.

Current state regulations allow local districts to add their own curriculum beyond the minimum state requirements, said Department of Education spokesman Eric Fry. That would arguably include some form of creation science, he said.

"They couldn't promote religion, but it's OK to teach about religion," Fry said.
But efforts to bring such lessons to the science classroom would likely be subject to the same kind of constitutional challenge that blew up into a national controversy in Dover, Pa., last year. After a six-week trial, a Republican judge appointed by President George W. Bush concluded that intelligent design "advanced a particular version of Christianity" and did not belong in class.

Judge John E. Jones III said Darwin's theory of evolution was imperfect. "However, the fact that a scientific theory cannot yet render an explanation on every point should not be used as a pretext to thrust an untestable alternative hypothesis grounded in religion into the science classroom."

Palin said she thought there was value in discussing alternatives.
"It's OK to let kids know that there are theories out there," she said in the interview. "They gain information just by being in a discussion."
That was how she was brought up, she said. Her father was a public school science teacher.


...Asked for her personal views on evolution, Palin said, "I believe we have a creator."

She would not say whether her belief also allowed her to accept the theory of evolution as fact.

"I'm not going to pretend I know how all this came to be," she said.

PALIN: "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. "Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. It's been a healthy foundation for me. But don't be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides."



and so it goes,
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